# Scope, eras & game versions
This page covers only what named players wrote about D7 (Obsidian Mines) in Guild Master - Idle Dungeons (community name: Idle Guild Master). It uses a topic-selected re-collection of r/IdleGuildMaster (3908 threads: 3901 from r/IdleGuildMaster and 7 from r/incremental_games; 25233 comments), collected via the Arctic Shift archive on 2026-10-04; threads without the selection keywords may be missing. Every quote is matched against that collection by an automated test, line breaks included; author, date and score come from the collection. Nothing here was checked in the game.
The game changes, so every date carries an era:
- Era A: up to 2025-05-15. The collection has no comment that mentions a doctrine before 2025-05-16. The quotes below start in 2024-08.
- Era B: 2025-05-16 to 2025-09-25. Developer version notes exist in the collection for this period.
- Era C: from 2025-09-26. The newest version note in the collection is version 2.134 (2025-09-25), so era C comments carry no game version. One player’s remark, not a developer statement: u/LanceAbbott (2025-12-08, era C, comment nsx3w82) writes:
game version didnt change for a while so there is nothing new to find
[2]
Version-sensitive Two version notes quoted here name the Obsidian Mines (both era A, posted by u/Paranoid-Squirrels): u/Paranoid-Squirrels (2025-01-05, era A, post 1hu1uo2) wrote: Obsidian Mines: -38% experience granted
[3] u/Paranoid-Squirrels (2025-01-22, era A, post 1i7760t) wrote: New raid is unlocked through the Obsidian Mines, when progress reaches 220.
[4] Experience figures dated before 2025-01-05 therefore describe the game before that change; this page does not compare figures across it.
Labels: Community Knowledge what a named player wrote; Version-sensitive a version-note line tied to a date. Non-English quotes are given in the original with a literal English translation labelled “(translation by MiniMeta, not verified by the author)”. Where the collection has no statement, this page writes “limited sample”.
# Counts
Community Knowledge Script-computed mention counts. Scope: the 953 comments (in 607 threads, by 209 authors) whose own text contains “D7” or “Obsidian”. An item is “mentioned” when its name appears in such a comment, including negative or dismissive mentions.
| Name | Comments | Authors | Era A | Era B | Era C |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Aegis | 72 | 30 | 47 | 1 | 24 |
| Paladin | 73 | 27 | 40 | 6 | 27 |
| Night Rogue / Night Lament | 58 | 31 | 13 | 13 | 32 |
| Mage / Archmage | 150 | 40 | 81 | 9 | 60 |
| Mitre / miter hat | 28 | 12 | 15 | 1 | 12 |
| Unholy Cuirass | 12 | 5 | 10 | 1 | 1 |
| Panopticon | 44 | 22 | 27 | 2 | 15 |
| Hermit | 38 | 21 | 26 | 0 | 12 |
| Lurker | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 |
| Dreadful Ascent | 6 | 4 | 2 | 0 | 4 |
| Lost Expedition | 10 | 8 | 3 | 0 | 7 |
Reproduce with python3 research/pipeline/jobs/idle-guild-master/page_build/d7_obsidian_mines.py --counts (from the repository root). The counts are neither exact nor a ceiling: ordinary words (“mage”, “hermit”) and spelling variants change the result, comments that do not write “D7” or “Obsidian” are not in the scope, and some comments quoted on this page are outside it. They say how often a name was mentioned, not what works.
# Where players disagree
Each table puts comments side by side with author, date, era and comment link (the link goes to the permalink table under Sources).
Mages in the D7 team
| Avoid mages | Physical preferred, yet a mage in the team | A mage in the team |
|---|---|---|
u/Any_Background3176, 2026-03-14, era C, comment oac368h: | u/Sneralted, 2024-08-07, era A, comment lgvh6qp: u/Sneralted, 2024-08-07, era A, comment lgvh6qp: | u/unofficialSperm, 2025-06-27, era B, comment mzzstda: u/Educational-Fun3513, 2026-03-21, era C, comment obo945m: u/Frosty-Toe-1933, 2026-08-17, era C, comment p45yanh: |
The healer’s mitre hat
| Mitre hat works or is used | Do not use the mitre hat | A trade-off, with numbers |
|---|---|---|
u/MrT3a, 2024-08-07, era A, comment lgwo3w1: u/Any_Background3176, 2026-03-14, era C, comment oac368h: | u/Alexey_Drg, 2026-03-14, era C, comment oacllbj: u/Quackenunleahed, 2026-05-26, era C, comment oo0r5wz: | u/Any_Background3176, 2026-03-14, era C, comment oadedst: u/Any_Background3176, 2026-03-14, era C, comment oadedst: u/Any_Background3176, 2026-03-14, era C, comment oadedst: |
Unholy Cuirass
| Suggests it | Says it does nothing in D7 |
|---|---|
u/Sneralted, 2024-08-07, era A, comment lgwo20i: u/AshtonShiken, 2025-05-08, era A, comment mr6t5i0: | u/Drakunet, 2026-03-25, era C, comment occn0ab: |
Panopticon staff on the healer
| Change the healer’s staff | Panopticon on the healer |
|---|---|
u/Ghiser95, 2026-03-21, era C, comment obmqqtu: | u/Any_Background3176, 2026-03-21, era C, comment obo4mlr: u/Educational-Fun3513, 2026-03-21, era C, comment obo945m: |
What unlocks D8?
Community Knowledge The questions: u/vsm994 (2025-06-27, era B, post 1llha1e) asked: But where's D8?
[7] u/BroadWave3542 (2026-05-15, era C, post 1tdnevo) asked: Je n'ai plus rien après Mines d'obsidienne, savez vous pourquoi ?
“I have nothing more after Mines d'obsidienne, do you know why? Is there a dungeon to finish?” (translation by MiniMeta, not verified by the author)[12]
Il y a un donjon à finir ?
| Lost Expedition | 200 areas | Dreadful Ascent | An epic raid |
|---|---|---|---|
u/Altruistic_Ad_539, 2025-06-27, era B, comment mzzrx1d: | u/unofficialSperm, 2025-06-27, era B, comment mzzstda: | u/Desperate_Box, 2025-06-27, era B, comment n00solm: u/More_Independence_43, 2026-05-15, era C, comment olx6g23: | u/HuntRoger, 2026-08-16, era C, comment p41lk1m: |
Names used for the dangerous D7 enemy
| Hermit / Pale Hermit | Pale lurker |
|---|---|
u/Fluffy-Internet-6250, 2024-11-12, era A, comment lwti2j6: u/Alexey_Drg, 2026-03-21, era C, comment obmo4ej: u/Shaaou, 2026-03-24, era C, comment oc5zgsl: | u/Quackenunleahed, 2026-05-26, era C, comment oo0r5wz: |
Is D7 worth farming? (era A, 2024)
| Dive straight in (2024-08-07) | Farm lower gear first (2024-08-06) | “Who will farm D7?” (2024-11-12) | Reply, same thread |
|---|---|---|---|
u/Sneralted, 2024-08-07, era A, comment lgvh6qp: | u/Coldea4K, 2024-08-06, era A, comment lgt5suc: | u/Secret-Fig-2963, 2024-11-12, era A, comment lwt88qy: | u/FlamingCuriosity, 2024-11-12, era A, comment lwtbrbl: u/FlamingCuriosity, 2024-11-12, era A, comment lwtbrbl: |
# Experience-per-hour figures as the commenters wrote them
Community Knowledge Different set-ups and dates: these figures are not comparable with each other.
| Era A (2024-11-12, before the 2025-01-05 change) | Era B (2025-06-25) | Era C (2026-08-14) |
|---|---|---|
u/Key-Speed-2688, 2024-11-12, era A, comment lwtn3mw: | u/jrohrer13, 2025-06-25, era B, comment mzoxzww: | u/Fomor666, 2026-08-14, era C, comment p3lhreg: |
# Single statements
Statements shown without a side-by-side partner (limited sample):
- Community Knowledge Staffs: u/GlitzyVn (2026-03-29, era C, comment od3tbnv) writes:
D7 life steal staff and the d7 32 int staff, Thats your next goal.
[16] - Community Knowledge Small teams (era A and era C): u/MrZev2 (2025-05-08, era A, comment mr95kxe) writes:
my 2 Night Rogues and gear from D8 can duo it. (You will need range daggers)
[11] u/Frosty-Toe-1933 (2026-08-17, era C, comment p45yanh) writes:You can clear the Obsidian Mines with a single Shadow Assassin.
[8]
# What this page cannot tell you
- No collected comment states a tested, repeatable comparison of D7 teams; the figures above are what the named players wrote.
- The 16 quoted era C comments come from 13 authors; u/Any_Background3176 wrote 3 of them. They are not independent votes.
- Era C carries no game version; if the game changed after 2025-09-25, some newer statements may no longer apply.
- Authors write “the boss”, “the hermit” or “the pale lurker”; the collection does not say whether they mean the same enemy.
- This page has no recommendation of its own. It lists who said what and when.